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Brigitta Hoeferle:
Here's the big question. How is it that most entrepreneurs hustle and are always busy and struggle to take just one step forward, only to fall two steps back their dedicated, determined and driven, but only a few finally break through and win. This show uncovers those quantum leap patterns of highly successful people so you can simply model what they do and apply to your future success. That's the question. And the answers are right here. My name is Brigitta Hoeferle and this is the Success Pattern Show. And welcome everyone to the Success Pattern Show. It is my honor to be here with you on this Tuesday as always, Brigitta Hoeferle and some of you that are watching every week, you're like, Oh, Brigitta is back in her old studio. Yeah, the new studio still has so much of an echo because we're still kind of figuring things out. So I am in my known studio until I go back and we have we had all the team come in which we're going to meet this week and make it a little bit more soundproof. All right. Let's get into the success pattern show. I'm so honored that you are here with us here in the Success Pattern Show. We put the do in learn, do teach. I'm Brigitta, the founder of the Success Patterns Movement and the CEO of the Center of NLP. And let's take success patterns apart if we will really quick. And I want to start with the latter part. The definition of pattern is an example for others to follow, an example for others to follow a very it's not a unique law and it is a unique law to NLP is it's all about success modeling. It's all about we model what someone else is already doing so we can then model it from them and do it as well. Because if one person can do it, you can do it and then let's take it. Let's look at the first part of the success pattern. Can we agree that success is an interesting thing? It shapes its meaning within each individual success seeker and it's not limited to business or personal life or anything, right? It is. What is it that you make success mean?

Brigitta Hoeferle:
And when we're able to see the patterns, we can then decode that pattern and encode it. If the pattern doesn't work, we can tweak something within that pattern, not throw the whole pattern out, tweak it, and then we can encode it for our own life. Because as humans were hardwired for on hands on application learning from a living teacher. And that's why we are here with our guest experts. And I oh my gosh, I always say this. And of course, we have incredible guest experts today. You are in for a treat here at the Success Pattern Show. We have a wonderful heart centered man on the show today. He is teaching people how to love and be kind to themselves through the four pillars of self love, the four pillars of self love. We're going to hear more about that through our interview and through our conversation today. He spent 20 years in the music and entertainment business. He's living the life of his dreams. Hello. If you are still looking to live your life, of your dreams, you might want to start bringing the pen and the paper out and take some notes. He's interviewed the biggest stars in the world, and that didn't fulfill his heart. He found out that he wasn't by himself in being kind of unhappy in having all of these things and knowing all of these people. So he went on a mission to find out why. Why is he feeling the way he's feeling? And then he learned the secrets of true happiness and true success, and he's sharing it with others. He started that journey. Then he's here with us now. That was the beginning of the self love revolution. Ladies and gentlemen, if you are in a car, don't get up. But if you're at home, this serves as standing ovation. My dear friend Jonathan Krohn is here with us. Hello, Jonathan. Thank you for being here.

Jonathan Troen:
Hi, Brigitta. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me here. Thank you for that amazing introduction.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
Look, Jonathan, you are just you know, if I think of heart centered, man, if I think of the antonym of toxic masculinity, I think of Jonathan. Och, you, in your introduction, we talked about the four pillars of self love. What are those four pillars of self love?

Jonathan Troen:
I went on a journey to figure this out. It's so simple, but it took me years to figure it out. The four pillars are. It all starts with acceptance. The truth is, when we go to school where we're taught non acceptance, we're taught comparison, how we compare to other people. We're taught that that. Everyone else is a is our competition and we have to figure out how to be better than we are. Right. We need to be more like that. Hey, you see that kid over there? Be like them. Even when we're really young playing at the playground. Do you see how that kid is behaving at the playground? Why can't you behave like them? And of course, when we're in school. Hey, do you see all those kids with a plus is why can't you be like them? And hey, if you have a plus is great. And if you don't, great. We have to begin practicing acceptance and not just. Acceptance of what is but acceptance of ourselves in who we are and the mistakes that we've made and also the successes that we've had. We highlight all the mistakes. Right.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
But I think we're really good at.

Jonathan Troen:
Yeah, we're really good at highlighting the mistakes. But the successes are like, oh, no, no big deal. And we're very humble about those. And we have to be humble about our mistakes and not throw our successes in people's faces. That I'm better than you are, right? We have to accept others, but accept the genius that we are in whatever way it comes out. So that's number one. As for all four, I have courses on each of them. Right?

Brigitta Hoeferle:
So that means we can talk for days.

Jonathan Troen:
We can talk for days. The second is we have to optimize our emotional energy. And that's really important because mostly we try and make change from a negative place, like we're frustrated, so we're going to change it. And the thing is, it works, but only temporarily. And then we fall back. When we create change from a negative emotional state, we tend to fall back. And that's that, that cycle, that hamster wheel or treadmill that people talk about, the treadmill of life. So when we create change from an a positive emotional state, an optimal emotional state, the change sticks. So how do we create that, that positive emotional state? Well, there are different ways there. There's yoga and exercise and running and jogging, listening to music, although you got to be careful with music, because sometimes music can make you sad. But here's the easiest way. The easiest way. Is gratitude. Which is cliche. I know. I get it. Gratitude journal. But here's the thing, right? We're in this world of follow the science, so let's just follow the science. Gratitude releases dopamine and serotonin and oxytocin. Now you can take drugs to get those. And this is I'm not on an anti drug thing know the drugs are really important for some people. So that's fine. And you're a drug manufacturing machine. You want to you want to make some dopamine for yourself? Well, yeah. You can pick up your phone and scroll Facebook. It's designed to give you dopamine hits. They hire psychologists, pay them millions of dollars to figure out how to give you more dopamine. So you stay on Facebook. And same with all the others. I'm not picking up Facebook. It's Gmail. It's all of that or pause. Just think of something you're really grateful for and boom. Dopamine. Create it for yourself. Number three. Now, this was this was the last one I figured out. I'll get to number four, but this was the last thing I figured out. And it's I call this the number one skill we were never taught. And the number one skill we were never taught is forgiveness.

Jonathan Troen:
And like I said, all these are course in itself three paths of forgiveness. Forgiveness of others who have done something to you. Forgiveness to others. Asking forgiveness of others. But the most important. Forgiveness of yourself and when you can learn to forgive yourself for the mistakes of the past. And you made them. I made them begin to make that. We all made them totally. When you can begin to forgive yourself. From the mistakes of the past. You you unchain yourself. We chain ourselves to our past, replaying that story over and over in our head for a month, a year? Decades. Yeah. Who's with me? Yeah, I know, I know. Because I've spoken to enough people by now, right? Decades. We replay the same story. Oh, if only it had been different back then. It's not different. I'm not saying it was right. It's just not different. So forgiveness allows us to. It's a part of acceptance. We accept this moment as it is, and it frees ourselves from the past so that we can create our new future. We cannot create our real new future unless we free ourselves from our past. That doesn't mean the past didn't exist. It did. But you don't you don't have to relive your past every single day. So the fourth. Is self love. It's actually being kind to yourself. And if self love is hard and it was really hard for me, maybe we'll get to that story. It was really hard for me when I started this. So self love, if you can do it, great. If not, start with self compassion. If self compassion is hard, start with self friendliness, but start being kind to yourself when you look in the mirror. Stop picking out every little zit and little gray hair and little this and that. Instead look at the things you do like. Oh, maybe you like your eyes. Hey, I like you. Maybe like your smiling smile. What? Maybe you can still hear. Hey, thank you ears for hearing. Just start treating yourself like a friend.

Jonathan Troen:
Be your friend to yourself. When you are a friend to yourself, that opens up the world for you, for new friendships and new, more powerful relationships. So that's a really condensed version of the four pillars.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
There's so much truth acceptance. Before we jumped on today for the show, we talked about acceptance and how it continues to come up in my clients. And Jonathan said the same thing and it's that I would even say before self-love comes that self acceptance accepting you know with all of my flaws and beauty that I have and and Jonathan answer the million dollar question here, if you will. Why are we so good as humans to look at all the flaws, everything that's not going right, all of the things that we don't have. How come it's so easy for us? Because that's a pattern, right? That we look at that. Yeah, we flip it. We could then also choose to look at all the beautiful things that we have. Well.

Jonathan Troen:
We have to flip it if we want success. But to answer the question, I would give two reasons. So one is certainly millions of years of evolution. We needed to look out for the dangers. Right. You know, if we heard a noise that could have been a saber tooth tiger or the tribe next door. So we're programed to look for the negative, to protect our survival. The thing is, we're not living in those conditions today. I have a roof, these walls. I'm in one room of many in this house. Very, very, very lucky. Yet our brain is still programed as if we're living millions of years ago. So we're in traffic. Our lives are not in danger. But but we get we're all tightened up because we feel like our life is literally in danger. Like like a sabertooth tiger is chasing us. Like, those are the I said, we're a chemical producing machine. So that's the cortisol. So we're producing cortisol to get away from the situation. But of course, we're in a situation that's not life threatening. Now, to be clear, I understand some people live in war zones and very difficult homes and those are life threatening situations. So I'm not talking about those. Those are very real. I'm not ignoring them, but I'm talking about the regular things that that we just get so frustrated about. Oh, the plane is the plane is late. Oh, my God. I got to go go get a book and read something. Listen to a podcast. Hey, there's a person next to you. Introduce yourself to them. So much to do on the plane is like. But now here's the real problem. So on top of the millions of years of evolution. You mentioned a pattern. So we instilled this pattern every single day. I remember when my son was born. He's seven now. And what a beautiful day. Right? But then they take him away for a moment, and then they bring him back and they give you this sheet of paper, and it says how tall he is, or length says his weight. And next to those numbers is a percentage.

Jonathan Troen:
How does he compare with every other person on the planet? And I'm going, Oh my God. And many of us have heard comparison, is the thief of joy didn't make it. And I'll go, Oh, my God, this starts not in first grade. Not in middle school. Not in high school. The day we are born, we are now compared to every other person on the planet. And then, of course, then the parents get involved like, oh, well, is the high percentage? Low percentage? I say he because I had a boy but you know she. Right. And then we get all caught up in it. And how do I make them better when we need to accept them who we are? And then, of course, the marketing messages that we get. Hey, get this car and you'll be happy. Well, I've got the new car. I like driving a new car. I really do. But it's not what made me happy because I got a new car knowing that it would make me happy. And I loved it for a few days. And then I'm like, Oh, these old stories about how I suck were back in my head. Oh, I still suck oh, I interviewed shared yesterday when the biggest stars in the world. Oh, but you still suck. Okay, you got your new car. You're three blocks from the beach. You've got a great place to live. You can see the sunset out your window. You're interviewing the biggest stars in the world, and you suck. That's what my mind told me. Because everyone told me that. Everyone told me that teachers told me that. Marketing messages told me that. Everyone told me that I was never good enough. We have to say I am good enough.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
And and and I love that you just said that because that's a pattern, because as humans, we look for evidence to support our beliefs, our values. Right. So when enough people around you, especially people that you kind of put on pedestals, especially when you're little in that imprint phase from age zero to around age six, seven years old. Right. It information just comes in unfiltered. You do not because you don't have any point of reference. So if the teacher says if the doctor says, oh, my gosh, a doctor in a white coat, you take that information in at face value and it becomes your evidence to support, in this case, a very limiting belief. And it and it's so it's so concrete. Like it literally is like as concrete as your driveway outside. Yeah. And breaking that through is hard. And you did break through that, though. You were in the music industry. You. You. We would start dropping names here. You would say? Yep. Interviewed them yet? Know that. Know them, you know. Hung out with them. Talk with them, blah, blah, blah. Where was the awareness that you wanted to change and tell me that story? Tell us that story.

Jonathan Troen:
I'll try to make it a briefer story because you don't have 3 hours. But it started. So, you know, I started the music business and I ended up moving to Denmark because I love the Danish people. And I moved there and and it was wonderful for about six months. And then these stories started coming back in my head about how I'm not good enough. So I moved down to Spain and I was there for six months and then these stories started coming back. So then I moved to LA and LA was great for about six months. And it goes on like this, right? Because it takes about when you're in a new place. That's why people love vacations. When you're in a new environment, your mind can only take in the new information. So the old information can't get there. But when something becomes regular. Like, Oh, I see these old buildings. They're not new anymore. Then the old stories patterns start coming back about not being good enough. So then I moved to 11. I moved to L.A. again. Great. Then not great. Move to 11th Street in Santa monica and said, Oh, the LA sucks just because I need to get closer to the beach because I drove 3000 miles across the country and I'm still far away from the beach. So in Santa monica, near the beach, 11th Street, I could bike there and in 5 minutes have my feet in the sand. Okay, that was great. Six months, of course. So I said, I just got to get closer to the beach. So I went to Third Street. I could have my feet in the sand walking 10 minutes, sunsets out my window. I'd walk to the beach, watch the sunset. It was a beautiful life. But in my journey from Third Street, past second street, past ocean, then down the stairs and then seeing all the houses on the beach itself. I would notice all these other houses that were way bigger than the place I was living in, and I was in comparison heaven. And I knew at the time I knew that if I just had that house on the beach, it was just a few more good deals away or good, whatever is away.

Jonathan Troen:
I'd have that house on the beach and then I would be happy. And then this is what happened. So if you can picture Santa monica for those that know you never been there, don't worry. But there's there's this park that that that's next to the beach. It's up on a hill next to the overlooking the beach. So I'm walking to the park. I walk there almost every day, and I will listen to headphones through headphones back then because I didn't like the thoughts in my head, so I'd always have have music playing in my ears. So I didn't have to listen to my own talking to myself. And I heard this song for punk fans out there, it's been called Social Distortion. And look, I had interviewed the band. I had seen the band. I listened to this song at least hundreds, if not thousands of times. And here's the lyric that I heard as if it was for the first time. And that's why I had to do all that setup. Here's a lyric You can run all your life and not go anywhere. And I'm going, Is that me? Denmark? La Santa monica, closer to the beach. I was running, and I really thought I was running towards something. Right? Towards adventure in Denmark. Adventure in LA. Well, closer to the beach. And what I discovered was that I was running from me because that was the only common thing between all those places. There was one thing in common. Me. Oh, my God. I was running and I wasn't going anywhere. So I quit the entertainment business. Really scary because my identity was wrapped up in it. My my Internet company back then was called La Live. And people a lot of people didn't know my name. There were three of us and we were the LA Live guys. So we'd be back show at a concert and go, Hey, the L.A. Live guys are here. That's how much of an identity it was. So I went on, I quit the entertainment business. By that time I was producing, I left L.A. live, we sold it, and I was producing TV shows, but I left it to go on a journey to figure out what was wrong with me.

Jonathan Troen:
Why did I have everything I wanted? Because I followed the instructions. Create the life you want. I followed it. I created a company so that I could go to free concerts and interview bands. That's what I did, right? So I followed the Create Your Own Life and I wasn't happy. So I went on this journey to figure out what was wrong with me. It took me a while. But what I figured out, it was the biggest aha moment in my life. That there was nothing wrong with me. But what? I don't have to pretend to be anybody different. I don't have to try and be that person down the street. I can just be me. I don't have to compare myself to everyone else in the world. Jonathan is okay.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
You know, you guys, I'm having goose bumps over here.

Jonathan Troen:
Oh, my God. I couldn't believe it. I really couldn't believe it. In that changed everything.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
What a story I want to hear, like the long version. So we're going to have you back for a longer version. I want to hear more about that. And especially you drop the really big truth bomb here, which comes with acceptance and that is we get so. Bundled up in. Portraying being the person that the outer world wants to see and is seeing that when we stop doing that, we literally give up ourselves. Like there's you know, there's a line in NLP that states accept the person, but you don't have to accept their behavior because we are not our behavior. And yet a lot of people identify with. I did. I'll give you a really quick example. I sometimes do like Rapid Fire. I call out words and I ask my client to say one word after I say a, like what comes up first, right? And I said a pretty negative belief. And her immediate response was me. And we were we're working on her identity. And I'm like, what came up for you after all of these was 22 words. What came up? And she's like, I don't know. I'm just lost. And I said. That that limiting belief that is that your identity and she's like, oh my gosh. I said, me? I said, Yeah. Acceptance.

Jonathan Troen:
And a part of it. Is giving up these identities that we get attached to. It was really hard for me to leave the entertainment business. I spent 20 years anymore. More than 20 years I had been doing it. I started a radio career. It was out of high school at 17 years old. At the top radio station in Boston. It was such a part of my identity. And I know people who are still in the entertainment business and some people love it, but I know people that wish they could get out. And it's not you know, there's good and bad. We don't have to get into that side. But I have I know a lot of people that wish they could do something different, but it's such a part of their identity. They don't know what else to do. And that's how I was. It's like I can't leave television, which is what I was doing at the time. Like, what else would I do? It's all I know how to do. But when we can get rid of the I am for me then a producer or now I am a self love mentor, or I am a yoga teacher or a small business owner or an entrepreneur or whatever. I don't I don't I don't teach that anymore. I teach simply I am like everyone watching. Just say without anything after it. Say I am. And allow there to be space. Forget mother, father, husband, wife, school, you know, all the your job. Forget all that. Just I am. And if you let there be space around that. Wow. And then you don't have to pretend you're someone in different situations, right? We act differently in front of different people, depending who we think they are.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
Who we are.

Jonathan Troen:
And who we think they think we are. Well, they think this kind of person. So I better act like this. All that goes away. It's so much more freeing to show up. And I'm Jonathan, and sometimes I don't fit in anymore. And that's cool. And there's a whole course I have on fitting in and belonging in the difference between the two. Please don't fit in. Please look for belonging. There be places you don't belong and it's going to hurt and it's going to suck. Here's the thing. See, this journey is not one that frees you from pain. It just. But. But fitting in doesn't free you from pain either. But you got pain. A guaranteed life. You're going to have pain and you're going to have good times as well. But what this does is it allows you to ease through the pain so that you can actually enjoy the successes that you're already creating in life.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
That feels so true and authentic and real. Jonathan And this was literally for me today, and I know it was for a lot more people out there. You mentioned the self love revolution, which came out of that. Yeah. Was it filling a void?

Jonathan Troen:
Well, the self love revolution didn't it didn't fill a void. Here's what it is. So when I started really figuring out what was wrong with me, right? So I went to some of the, the known people. So I did the Tony Robbins School of Massive Action. I'm a big fan of Tony Robbins. And and and I learned about modeling. And I would love to have a long conversation with you about modeling, because I did it at the beginning and it worked, but I still trying to be somebody else. So I had to get out of modeling, so I had to do it. But I would love to engage in that conversation with with you one day. But I did the Tony Robbins school and then, you know, then the secret came out and I'm like, okay, well, take change your thoughts and all that kind of stuff. And then I discovered Louise Haigh, which she's like the godmother of self-love, like, wow, that's a whole new world. But I couldn't practice it when I first learned about it was this is literally this is what happened the first time I learned about it. She goes, Go to a mirror and say, I love you. So I go to the mirror and I look myself in the eyes and I go, Jonathan, that's exactly what I couldn't. And I turned my head just like that. I couldn't look myself in the eyes. I couldn't say the words.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
Wow.

Jonathan Troen:
That's what it was. And now I can say it anyway. Like, I just got back from Costa Rica yesterday and I'm in the airport and go to the bathroom. You see the mirror and you see yourself like, Hey, Jonathan, I follow you, you're awesome. I love you. Can say it anywhere, any time now. And then I learned the the lost, the missing ingredient. Oh, they're all missing ingredients. But this forgiveness, which I said. Right. So there I am with Tony Robbins, massive action here and Lewis Hayes, self love here. And Tony Robbins is talking about self love. Lewis isn't talking about how to take action. And then you got forgiveness, which neither of them at least what I was hearing at the time we're talking about, I can't deal with this. So I took everything that worked for me and tried to figure out how to structure me. Like I didn't create it for anyone. I was like, How do I do this for me so I can live my life without going to 20 different sources? Now, don't get me wrong, I still learn and I still listen. And I've learned a ton from you. But I had to create something, a habit, a new new programing, new patterns, right? So I created this new system for me. And I do all this. I practice acceptance, gratitude, forgiveness and self-love in 2 minutes. Now, I do have the longer practices which I do practice, but if it's a crazy day, I do it for 2 minutes while I brush my teeth. I get I get them all in. That's my new pattern, right? That's how I live. So once I figured it out and I do call this the new pathway to success. Look, I spent 20 years in Hollywood. I know a ton of millionaires and I know a ton of struggling people, too. And I can tell you, I know happy millionaires and really unhappy millionaires. I've been backstage with people doing so many drugs to hide the present moment. You can't even imagine some of them aren't with us anymore. Right. And it wasn't for lack of money.

Jonathan Troen:
Money is a magnifier. I'm not saying you don't get money. Money is great. It makes life easier, but it's a magnifier. So if you if you're struggling to get money when you got it, you'll still be struggling. And that's what I did. I was there. I'm like, oh, they all said, when I get six figures, you know, it was the magic number back then, this in the 96 figures now. Now it's seven figures. Back then it's six figures. So six figures. Yeah. Oc. The voices were still there telling me I sucked. So money was just a magnifier to the then I'm not good enough. So what I try and help people with is on your way. If you have the money, great. Let's change it in that you start liking yourself so that you don't struggle so much. And a lot of people are not surviving to the next day. And we've got to change it, especially we as entrepreneurs have to help each other. We're twice is more likely to have mental health. Yes. And we have to cop to it. We have to admit our own problems. We have to start helping each other. And if you are on the path there, do it with joy so that when you get your six figures or seven figures or or nine figures, whatever it is that you want. You'll be living with joy. That's what you want to be happy. Money will magnify it. But I promise you that it doesn't create it. And that's what the self love revolution is. So when I figured it out for me. And tell me, why is my yoga studio. Ooh, yoga studio in Northwest Austin. Why is that? The most successful business I've ever had? Not the music company I had interviewing the Who and the Backstreet Boys and, you know, and Cher. And not that one. A yoga studio. We teach yoga. Meditation is more successful than all of that. Why? Well, because I've changed. I have more money in the bank now than I did then. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Jonathan Troen:
Except it does. Because I'm telling you that this self-love revolution is the new pathway to whole life success. There are other ways to get money in the bank. I get that. But this will bring you money in the bank, and it will bring you the joy to go with it. And that's what we have to start teaching.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
And. And by teaching, you also brought us a gift. From the self love revolution. I think you brought us a meditation. Is that right?

Jonathan Troen:
I did. But you know, here. Here, I'm going to I forgot. Oh, you're going to see self love and you're going to see self love in action. Did I give you a link?

Brigitta Hoeferle:
Yeah. It's already on the bottom of our screen.

Jonathan Troen:
It's already there. What's the link that I gave you?

Brigitta Hoeferle:
Self love revolution dot com slash meditations OC Great.

Jonathan Troen:
It may or may not be there right now. True story. True story. I'm so. This is what I have to do. But the old me would have beat the shit out of myself. John I just spent two weeks in Costa Rica, so I didn't. And then. And then. And also in my calendar. This was two weeks later. Right. But this is great. But so, Jonathan, you're not prepared. You suck. You blew it again. That's the old me today. It's Jonathan. Forgive yourself, okay? You made a mistake. Maybe the link is up there. Maybe it's not. But I guarantee you, if in 3 minutes after this call you can go to self love revolution slash meditations. Maybe it is there now and I'm going to give you those meditations and you'll have the forgiveness meditation. You'll have a self love meditation, you'll have the gratitude meditation. So if it's not there right now, I've forgiven myself already. I ask you to also forgive me, but I can't control that. And I want you to go there and I want you to listen to these meditations. I want you to listen, maybe do one for a week and then the next one for a week. You don't have to do them all all at once, but you do have to do them all. And I guarantee you, in a month, if you do these meditations, your life will be dramatically different. Dramatically different. So, yes, I want to offer this to you. I'm very excited to bring this to you. It's done so much for me, and I believe it will do. I know. I know. If you do it, if you down, by the way, if you download them and never play them.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
It's not going to help. It's not going to help.

Jonathan Troen:
Won't work. And look, I know that game. I was in there, too. I bought book after book and I read the first two chapters. Put it down, put another book, bought it. I know it. It's okay. I went through that, too. No judgment. Yes, but if you really listen to them, I guarantee your life will be changed. And if it isn't, I want you to email me or call me. It's easy to get my information online. A little too easy. But you can find me. You can find my cell phone number. It's out there. Call me, let me know what's up, and we will make a mark for you.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
There's only one Jonathan Troen, just like there's only one Brookie, truthfully. And you can also follow Jonathan on Facebook, Facebook.com slash Jonathan Troen Troen Jonathan, this has been so absolutely beautiful. Thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, your kindness, your love, your acceptance, all of the beautiful nuggets. And before I let you go, I want to end with Paul Simon's excerpt out of his Patterns song. And here's a part of the lyrics. My eyes can dimly see the patterns of my life and the puzzle that is me from the moment of my birth to the instant of my death. There there are patterns I must follow, just as I must breathe each breath. My life is made of patterns.

Jonathan Troen:
Yeah. Let's change them and give ourselves some really successful patterns.

Brigitta Hoeferle:
Yes. I appreciate you, Jonathan. And the next time we have you on, we're going to talk about modeling and you and I connect anyway. So thank you for being here, guys. Thank you for tuning in for this wonderful time with my dear friend Jonathan Troen. Connect with him, get the meditations, watch the replay success patterns dot com. Tune in again next week. Same time, same place. Until then. Thank you for tuning in to the Success Patterns Show at www.TheSuccessPatternsShow.com My name is Brigitta Hoeferle.

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